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RaD

12-10-2007, 08:20 PM

Homosexuality is accepted well enough.</span>[/b]

Here in Holland homosexuality is pretty much accepted. Of course there are always some exceptions. People that are just too stupid too see further then just (butt)sex etc. But how is it in the countries you live in? Tell us how you think about this and how you think your country thinks about this.

Tell us what you think about this topic, but please, don't just say "I agree". Don't be afraid to type out what you think and how you feel about it. The longer your post is the better I would say.

bbob

12-10-2007, 08:33 PM

I dont think many of the citizens of Denmark cares who other people dates. Ofcourse there is a little handful of some religious fanatics who throws stones at homo's when they do their parade things, but that is not something that is endorsed by the general public, rather to the contrary..

Though, as I have probably said before, I think it can get a bit too much with the parades, not that I condone any kind of violence against them. It's just that advertising ones sexuality is a bit absurd, that is your buisness, not mine. It is fair enough that there is ladies out there preferring pussy, and dudes preferring the cock, bless them. But why do they have to board trucks screaming of how much they love the genitals of their gender. Of course not all gay people is like this, but to those who are: I get it, go home, it is getting old.

Chris

12-10-2007, 08:37 PM

Same as Bobbo..

Gays still cant get married in Norway though.. I think..

RaD

12-10-2007, 08:41 PM

Oh, just to set this straight (haha... straight xD), i'm not trying to point towards religious people being against homosexuality. There are also a lot of non-religious people against them... Just to straighten that out...

I do agree with you bbob, gay parades are kind of strange some times especially when i see them dancing half naked with a pink feather boa around their neck... That's just... Wierd... IMO those are the guys messing it up for the rest of the group. There are a lot of normal gays out there... (yes i admit, i am one of them) That want to be treaten normally. I must say i feel lucky to be born in the netherlands and not some middle-east country (like iran where the president says there is no such thing as homosexuality in his country).

FriendlyGuy

12-10-2007, 09:00 PM

OMFG^ he's gay, *throws projectiles*

No i'm just kidding, i mean being gay is none of my business, it's private, so don't go around flaming and i think the parades are dumb. I mean if i were to organize a "straight" parade, i would be probably regarded as pregidous. But i hate how gays are making themselves into a race that deserves minority rights. Just be happy with who you are.

Fiendz

12-10-2007, 09:03 PM

I think being gay is something that would be the persons problem, there shouldn't be no gay pride parade, I just think they shouldn't be allowed to adopt children, their polluting their minds lol

RaD

12-10-2007, 09:12 PM

@Fiend

being gay is genetics, not what you grow up with. Being adopted by gay parents doesnt automatically make you gay in the future.

bbob

12-10-2007, 09:18 PM

A problem? Polluting minds?

I think if anyone would respect sexuality, it would be a gay couple.

lol, its not like gay is a disease (OH NO, JOHNNY HAS CAUGHT THE GAY!!). Beeing gay is something you are, a chromosomical difference in the brain is all it takes. Its like, if you let a couple with down syndrome raise a kid, that wont give the kid down syndrome.

Its the same thing, chromosomical differences, and who is to say what chromosomes are right? People are people, everyone is different more or less, respect that.

douf

12-10-2007, 09:22 PM

in my country the law forbid same sex marriage or intercourse ... if your proven to be gay and actively enjoying your life you are to be sent to prison ... which is actually pretty cool for one as myself.

you guys keep saying its genetic and stuff though in the passed 20 years of my life i havent met ONE single man who said he would prefer the cock .... even the pussiest ones the fags you know ... not in the sort of being a fag for being homo but the fags for being fags. lol dont know how to describe it.

but point is .. its not cool being gay here and everyone is okay with it. i like not having competition "less lesbians = more women'

bbob

12-10-2007, 09:32 PM

How can you care what other people do in their bedrooms?!

Fiendz

12-10-2007, 09:35 PM

Fiendz

12-10-2007, 09:37 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JfHB2cruJU
watch that when kids see adult doing it they think it's fine, they pick up stuff thats what I meant

bbob

12-10-2007, 09:43 PM

Exactly, gay kids THOUGHT they liked girls when they were little, because everyone else did..

Its called mass psychology..

Plus, dont use the bible as an argument, its getting old, the bible is the constitution for a belief, it does not prove anything. Thats like saying that hitler was a reptile from space just because someone has written it down.

douf

12-10-2007, 09:44 PM

at bbob ... I DON'T, but i still sleep better know that nature is on the right path :P ... wow that sounded really dull

Plus, dont use the bible as an argument, its getting old, the bible is the constitution for a belief, it does not prove anything. Thats like saying that hitler was a reptile from space just because someone has written it down.[/b]

this statement is wrong in sooooooo many ways ... your mean that all history is doubtful

Fiendz

12-10-2007, 09:47 PM

bbob

12-10-2007, 10:03 PM

Emo's are not the same as gay people, that is like saying that the moon is a piece of cheese, not based in any logic. It is a proven fact that homosexuality is a product of genetics.

And it is a fact that all history is doubtful, cause it is popular culture, the battles of the past is seen through the eyes of those who won..

Say that a person of high status and power, could write total bullshit, get that with his power to be taught in schools. The bullshit would become a totally non-disputed fact in less than three generations. Because we can only know what we are told. If everyone keeps telling you something, it becomes your reality.

Fiendz

12-10-2007, 10:31 PM

Alright u beat me, ur smart fuck <_< lol j/k Your pretty smart but this wouldn't be my subject, I bow to tha great bbob, lol well I accept defeat

bbob

12-10-2007, 10:46 PM

I accept your capitulation :P

Deffy

12-11-2007, 04:34 AM

I think homosexuality is ok, and in Norway its preety open. But there is always someone against, like Christians. I think love is love and it can cross the gender line anyway it have to. But still normal people who think homosexuality is dirty but still accepts it still uses fag,gay and other words going whit homosexuality as a negative words like "You little fag il kick your ass". Cant people love what/who ever they want?

Monkey Business

12-11-2007, 10:13 PM

Here in Canada, same sex relationships are basically accepted now. Of course, there's always the few individuals who think that all gays/lesbians should be killed painfully, sent to prison, banished, ect. The majority of the population [at least in Ontario] doesn't give a hoot about what genitals people prefer.

I myself don't care at all. I'd be fine with having friends that are gay or lesbian, as long as they keep their sexual urgings to themselves. As long as they don't harm me [sexually], I'm fine.

I agree with bbob as well. Ok, yeah, you like the same sex. That's fine, we accept it, don't go overboard. Before you know it, people will start having parades for green eyed people, just because they're a minority.

Dymond

12-11-2007, 10:29 PM

I guess its accepted in the UK but then again i think alot of people are ignorant about things. For example some of my mates hate gays for the simple fact they think they are gonna get chatted up by them :s. Thing is shouldnt you accept people for who they are and if you dont like it dont talk to them or get involved in thier business.

And as for this stuff about gay people adopting kids i think its tricky as the kid could face bullying because of the situation they have been brought into but then i also think that if the couple can provide a stable home why should they be stopped from adopting.

FriendlyGuy

12-12-2007, 12:04 AM

Gay couples with kids have never proven to be anything wrong.

Also sodomy, in ancient Greece and medieval Japanese societies was perfectly acceptable and even a cultural norm. In one culture (i can't remember which) gays were actually viewed as supreme beings, and should be worshipped.

But the Christian faith has turned homosexuality into a very negative thing, very shunned in ultra-religious communties. But there is nothing wrong with it, its just like being born with blonde hair, or being asian.

Those of you who say the Bible is history, I'm not trying to insult your beliefs, but its not. It's just a religious text like any other.

RaD

12-12-2007, 10:10 AM

The bible is a piece of history, but w.e I can't even argue over this topic. i personally think being gay is wrong but who can I control? and get outa here wit dat mass psychology shit, they were confused? more like they wanted to feel special. just like the emo people they were normal at once, then all of a sudden they just change and start cuttin themselves is that in their genes?[/b]

I can honestly say that I didn't make the choice to be gay. I did make the choice to Come out... There is a difference there. Maybe gays are afraid to come out because they will be (for example) killed or banned from their country.

Remember the president of Iran saying in Amerika homosexuality doesn't exist in their country? He got lauged at. Of course homosexuality exists in Iran...

Besides homosexuality is not only human behaviour. Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RlTAyNI8WE

faust.

12-12-2007, 02:20 PM

Homosexuals are widely accepted. However, chavs tend to be hostile, mostly due to being afraid of the unknown, and that they don't believe it's right.
Chavs are retards.

Some religious fanatics are against homosexuality too, but I find it funny how hypocritical they are by expressing this belief.

Some of my friends are gay, I have no problem with homosexuals. What I do have a problem with is people who are camp, or overally flamoyant. Not because they're gay, but because it's just annoying. I also hate people who PRETEND to be gay. Fucking retarded.

I'm straight.

edit: Wow, just read the thread. Way to be closed minded guys... Fiend, I honestly can't believe you're dumb enough to believe that being gay is a condition. That's like saying every homosexual is disabled. They have no disabilities, they just prefer men to women.
Bbob has basically put across my feelings on this also. I honestly can't believe a Christian, someone who follows the bible, would go against the main theory of Christianity (to love one another) without even realising it. How can you call yourself a true Christian?
I for one don't necessarily believe in an omnipetant figuire who watches over us, I don't necessarily believe in a 'God', I'm open to the theology of religion, but can't bring myself to believe in the idea of a God. However, I still manage to follow the ethics of Christianity far better than most.

The bible was created almost 200 years after Jesus' death (forgive my inaccuracy, I don't have time to look up the exact time), the details and facts will be abscured. Think about it like the kids game "chinese whispers", you start off with one sentance, and then end with another. The details will have change, but more often than not the main idea will have stayed the same.

Really sorry for rambling, but I think I got across my point? Ah well, no one's going to read this anyway.

douf

12-12-2007, 02:28 PM

id say having an opposite opinion while not being a religious fanatic or a chav, or a red nick or whatever .... its my opinion, i didnt find those genetic finds very convincing, well its my problem then, but still my opinion is still valid

faust.

12-12-2007, 02:32 PM

It's valid, but it's not exactly the most fair and open minded one...

douf

12-12-2007, 03:13 PM

why not ... i am not saying homosexual doesnt exist or should be exterminated, i am just saying that i am happy that they dont have parades here, and are not dominating the media, its sick enough that all the new movies are pro-gays. well mind me i still dont like it ... crucify me for having an opinion that doesnt go with the flow

bbob

12-12-2007, 03:16 PM

heh, its not about going with the flow, the only reason I ask questions is to understand what lies under the oppinions I disagree with.

faust.

12-12-2007, 04:55 PM

Personally I just can't see how a whole religion can openly dislike another race/culture they know nothing about.

bbob

12-12-2007, 05:03 PM

Thats why I want to try to understand it, to safeguard myself from such prejudice..

Chris

12-12-2007, 09:40 PM

Being gay is not something you chose, and not an illness and is in no way a danger to straight people or children.

So we all agree now?

Good, now lets bring some humor into all this, shall we?
Lewis Black - Queers! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ANrvQC4wIk)
I just love that shit :D

FriendlyGuy

12-12-2007, 09:41 PM

There are two things i hate in this world:
1. Those who are intolerant of other people's cultures
2. The french

Chris

12-12-2007, 09:43 PM

Yeah.. Not to keen on the french myself.. Dont know why, I just generally dont like them.. :S

faust.

12-12-2007, 09:55 PM

i love french culture

and i'm british

bbob

12-12-2007, 09:57 PM

The french are badass.. :P

douf

12-12-2007, 10:29 PM

omg u just ruined the topic in 3 posts ...

1. Those who are intolerant of other people's cultures - . - homosexuality is not a culture.

bbob

12-12-2007, 11:21 PM

Some homosexuals have made it a culture for themselves..

faust.

12-13-2007, 09:03 AM

culture: the attitudes and behavior that are characteristic of a particular social group or organization; "the developing drug culture"; "the reason that the agency is doomed to inaction has something to do with the FBI culture"

RaD

12-13-2007, 09:47 AM

Some homosexuals have made it a culture for themselves..[/b]

And that are the kind of gay men i DONT Like...

I mean how stupid could you be. You want to be accepted and bot discriminated and what do you do? Say you are a culture or sometimes even a race...

@Silence, of course you can have an opinion and that opinion if fine with me, but WHY do you have that opinion. There are a lot of 'normal' gay men out there. Just because the extreme people mess it up for the rest, you dislike them?

Just like with hetero's there are extremist with the gays...

douf

12-13-2007, 10:48 AM

let me just clarify one thing ... i wont personally kill or harm anyone for being homo, its your life after all, its just i dont get why do i have to accept something that stands against something i believe in .... that we are all the same and equal.

if what your saying that homosexuality is not a choice then this means that your life would be more challenging, which doesnt make sense to one as myself, but if you see it through my eyes you would understand why i am saying it your choice to be gay, dont blame it on genes. and yes i saying that homosexuality is an abnormality, i know you wont agree but many already stand on my side.

so in the end we both live in peace, its not like we are going to war for it.

raXike_

01-19-2008, 08:19 AM

And that are the kind of gay men i DONT Like...

I mean how stupid could you be. You want to be accepted and bot discriminated and what do you do? Say you are a culture or sometimes even a race...

@Silence, of course you can have an opinion and that opinion if fine with me, but WHY do you have that opinion. There are a lot of 'normal' gay men out there. Just because the extreme people mess it up for the rest, you dislike them?

Just like with hetero's there are extremist with the gays...[/b]

Okey, then what you think need to do gay people that they would accepted by you? If your friend would be gay, and he just wants you to know it that you could deal with it, what would you do? I`m pretty sure you would stop talking to him. `cause you can`t accept homosexuality.

My country is very bad for homosexuals... About 70% people think tha homosexuality is illness.. And I think about 80-90% would try to beat gay. Because in my country is very big hatred for gays. Our goverment even forbid gay parade, and toleration day, then the bus would be painted in rainbow colors and went over city center.. [I hope you understood my sentence]. I think [I really can`t remember good], about 13-10 years before of same sex relationship, you needed to go to prision, `cause it was "crime".
Yeah, yeah, I hate my country. But now some young people try t accept homosexuality. Like me, and some of my friends. But others are agains it...

So, I really sorry, if you something didn`t understand, but my english teacher is bad, so what can I do :D? So, again sorry.

Chris

01-19-2008, 08:27 AM

I highly doubt that Rad would stop talking tt his gay friend :P

RaD

01-19-2008, 09:43 AM

Haha indeed... :P

I think, what they should do is just act normal...

For example there was this talkshow on dutch television about religions and things like that. A muslim was placed besides a gay man however the muslim didn't know he was gay. They talked a lot and stuff like that and at the end of the show the muslim was told that the man was gay.

At first the muslim reacted shocked (he thought all gay men were 'committing a crime') but then he realised that he just had a very good conversation with that man... So gay people CAN be normal... Some gays just dont WAN'T to...

If more gays would act normal, there wouldn't have been a problem....

raXike_

01-19-2008, 09:50 AM

In my country in doesn`t matter how you act, if you are gay - you need to be beaten, bullied and etc. That`s my country logic.
If you don`t say that you are gay and act normal - then everything ok.
And in my country is logic - emo are homosexuals. WTF? I hate this, then someone say. `cause it`s just stupid.
[No offence anyone].

RaD

01-19-2008, 09:53 AM

Yea, well some countries are just not ready to accept things like that...

In some countries women are treated almost the same way... They are beaten, murdered, put in prison for BEING raped... It's terrible how some people can act...

SarahBear

01-19-2008, 09:53 AM

In my mind (like it ever makes sense) i don't care who you date. I made get a little mad that you dating some one i like but i don't care. My Aunt (the only one i every really get to see) is a lez and i love her. I think because i was raised with my aunt being out (so can just tell by looking at her) and being to near to SF i really don't care. I have grown up in a very open home. My Mom and Dad don't really care which one I end up with as long I am loved and if a woman gives me that them ok if its a man then ok. And some people who come from other states come here (to SF) look shocked that to people are kissing and in love that are the same (girl,girl boy,boy) (and its really funny cause it really cold in sf if theres fog and there wearing shorts LOL). (if this does not make any sense it cause its 3 in the morning here and i'm really tired)

SirSquishy

01-27-2008, 09:17 PM

I'm sorry if anyone here is a homosexual.. but.. I'm one of those people that suffer from homophobia.

bbob

01-27-2008, 11:04 PM

Haha, it is not like they are gonna ambush you with blowjobs..

RaD

01-27-2008, 11:13 PM

Haha, it is not like they are gonna ambush you with blowjobs..[/b]

Oh yes we will...

We will sneak up on you when you walk through the park at night and then jump on your back screaming: "SUPRISE!! BUTTSECKSSS!!"

<_<

Blossom

06-20-2008, 09:28 PM

For the last time being gay is not a genetic thing, since when did God give adam a boyfriend, it's a excuse made up for gheys to have an excuse it's just their sexual prefrences, is being emo genetic? did I choose to be born black? I bet if u ask most gays when they were young if they liked girls they will most likely say yes[/b]

Being gay is genetic. I'm gay myself. There is actually a report about being gay and genetics. There's a study that shows boys at young ages that participate in the more "girly" activities turn out to be gay. And young girls that are into "boy" stuff usually become lesbian when older. It's genetic because it is almost natural for gay people to do as a child. I even did it, a friend I know was the same way.

And please don't come with religion. You sound like you are not even educated in theology. Why would God create two same-sex partners? That obviously wouldn't help the population now would it? Excuse me, but when I was young I had NO attraction whatsoever for the female gender. Why are you even putting your input on something that you clearly know nothing about. I'm not straight but I'm not going to be ignorant and judge heterosexuals and say "they chose it". So how can you possibly judge us when you are not in our shoes?

Chris

06-20-2008, 09:49 PM

I was at a massive gay party today.. Like 1000 gay people getting drunk on a rooftop :P Some of them are my friends and one of them got wasted and dissepaired so I had to come and help find him -.- ...(Not gay myself by the way)

bbob

06-21-2008, 10:10 AM

A thing I find hillarious is how people can be offended by homo's. Like Louis C.K. said, sexuality is one of those few things that does not affect you at all, it is not like somebody can be gay AT you. Just because some parents feel awkward having to explain their children that some men like it in the pooper, there should be no gays.

Bigotry cracks me up.. :P

vanLeent

06-21-2008, 10:26 AM

Yea, I mean... If you're a devout christian I understand that you might not like the idea of homosexuality. Since your religion states that people are put on earth to reproduce (At least the dutch protestant church states that...) And that cannot be done :- -: or w/e.
But other than that I don't see why anyone could/should hate people with different sexual preferences. If you're a man and you can't ever be happy if you'd have to love a woman then marry a man. Sounds fuckin cliche but life's just to short to prevent yourself from being happy. And life's also to short to waste time on preventing other people to be happy.